Ep. 15: Fraser Grut: The Journey to 10,000 Dreams - Capturing Stories That Matter; From Ordinary to Extraordinary

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was telling Ashton this that like my whole life I wanted to be Spielberg or Peter Jackson.

[00:00:05] [SPEAKER_06]: And Ashton said to me, he said, you will only ever be the second best Peter Jackson,

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_06]: but you could be the best Fraser on the planet.

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And I kind of clicked in that moment. I'm like, wait, yeah, you're right.

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Why would I ever want to be the second best Peter Jackson of the second best Steven Spielberg?

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm me. I'm unique. Like and only in the last year have I probably embraced that.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Champion This with Brianna Salvatore-Dewick and Chelsea Poppins,

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: where we share the incredible stories of athletes and entertainers who are using their platforms

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: to create positive change in the world and the communities they live in.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We are so excited today because we have our good friend Fraser Grut on the podcast.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Fraser is the founder of the 10,000 Dreams project, I should say.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: 10,000 Dreams is a project where Fraser is recording dreams of 10,000 different individuals

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and has really already, I think recorded over 2,000 dreams, if not more to date,

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but really has felt a huge call and a passion and a purpose towards this project.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He is also a New Zealander. He is married to the powerhouse woman Jade,

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: who's also partnered with him on the project.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's such an honor and a privilege to have you on the podcast today, Fraser.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You get to share your story.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Guys, so cool to be here. Thanks for having me.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course. Well, we're super excited.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We had the chance to dig into some of the people you've already interviewed.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's really, I'm really excited to hear a little bit more about what started it.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you tell us what inspired you to start the 10,000 Dreams project?

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. So it was December the 8th, 2016 in a cafe in Auckland, New Zealand,

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_06]: like deep in the bush. And basically I made a bit with a mate that I would film one dream

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_06]: every single day for one year and it was called 365 Dreams.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And I hated it for like the first 100 days because there was no purpose behind it.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_06]: There was no mission. It was just to prove my mate wrong.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was begging family and friends to do it.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, and then I ran out of family and friends to film the dreams of.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_06]: So it slowly expanded out and then about 200 days in it,

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: it somehow became 10,000 Dreams because I thought the name sounded cool.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_06]: So I overnight changed it to 10,000 told everyone I was going to film 10,000.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And without realizing, I kind of signed up to a lifetime of filming Dreams.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_06]: So I've done it for eight years now and I've done 2,100 Dreams.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like 21% through.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_06]: You do the mess. How long that's going to take?

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You said it's a lifetime.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Pretty much.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But you also mentioned like in our prep call that you kind of did it out of spite of your friend and your mate.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I said I was going to do this and I was going to do it.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, 100%. Yeah. And now we just laugh about it.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I still one of my best mates. We just laugh about it.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like what? This was so not the plan.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_06]: There was no plan behind this.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Like we don't even remember what the bet was because it was so insignificant.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_06]: The moment it was just getting a coffee with a mate.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Did he jump on board when you kind of started like maybe after, I don't know, the first 500?

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he was like dream 40 or something.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_06]: So for some reason he wasn't even the first one.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_06]: So he dodged me for like a month before he wasn't going to help you in the bet.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would he?

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I know. Yeah, exactly. There you go.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But no, I am so grateful for that coffee now.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what my life would look like right now if I didn't have a coffee with my mate.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So I guess the advice being go get coffee with your mate.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Like literally.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing. That's amazing.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, for sure this thing of really helping people share their dreams and even like unlock their dreams.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm curious where did that come from?

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you as a little guy, were you always a dreamer and what was your dream as a kid as well?

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. So ever since I was seven years old, my dream was always to be the greatest filmmaker of all time.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember telling my mom that when I was a kid and I was on a path to being the next Spielberg.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, like that was just the only dream I ever had.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So I've always been a huge dreamer.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's because I was raised in a family with two parents who were just powerhouses, you know, my dad was on the PGA golf tour.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Then he became a pastor and my mom was running a travel business.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So I feel like I would have, I would have gotten in trouble if I told them I wanted to be an accountant or something.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It's almost the reverse of most parents where it's like if I had pursued my backup plan, I think my parents would have told me off.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So I was very fortunate to just be raised in an environment where honestly, like there was no excuse to not dream.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I just assumed everyone just dream.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I assume that was the same story of everyone I met only later in life.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Have I realized how fortunate I was to have been raised that way?

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, I've always been crazy optimistic and just a guy that's dreamed outrageous dreams, you know.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But I never expected this to become my thing.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_06]: This was not the plan at all, but I'm so grateful that it's what I've been given, you know.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It really is a blessing to have like you are a product of your parents and what they pour into you.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, not everybody's parents are going to be like, if you're going to dream, you might as well dream big.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that one's too small.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It is a gift.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember even my dad like so supportive.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, if you want to be the president, go and be the president.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone's got to do it.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And there are always going to be people that are going to hate on you and say it's not possible.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But like someone's going to be president.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember, I think that was so powerful because it helped to galvanize me to be like, oh yeah, I want to be a professional basketball player.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's attainable, you know.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so powerful.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with Chelsea on the power of parents and making that happen as well.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I met your grandparents, Brie, like a monster.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_06]: This such powerhouses.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Like your granddad's so much like Jesse.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I see where Jesse like it's so well.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_06]: This such awesome grandparents.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know Papa the best.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: He's absolutely amazing.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: What a man growing up as a dreamer has how has your understanding of dreams and their significance involved since you began in 2017.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think when I started probably for the first year or so, I kind of just wanted crazy dreams.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I wanted people to be like, I want to be Prime Minister.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to be president.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to be an astronaut because I guess that's that probably symbolize where I was at that point.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_06]: It was all about my dreams, crazy dreams stuff that made you great, you know, in the world size.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I think the longer I've done this, the more now I've realized that every single dream is just as special.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So the dream to be a great mom is just as special as the dream to become president.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think it's really, yeah, I feel like I've really shifted now to understanding that you don't have to want to change the world to be great.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, being a fantastic husband being a fantastic father, that makes you great, you know, being a fantastic friend that makes you great.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's really shifted now where I don't just want those sound bites anymore.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to really listen and let people just talk for like 20 minutes and share their hearts and share their stories.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_06]: The first like five years, it was very much just sound bites.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I wanted a 10 second answer.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I wanted a 20 second answer that was like, oh, there's a banger answer.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Now I'm like, no, I want like 20 minutes of interview and then I'm going to cut it down.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm going to find essence of who that person is.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just so much richer now.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Every dream is important.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And everyone has a dream too.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the other thing I've learned.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I've interviewed every type of human you could imagine from every single walk of life and everyone has a dream.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's powerful too.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Because like for listeners for context and I should have teed this up in the beginning in the intro, but Frazier has interviewed like six prime ministers.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He's interviewed major celebrities and athletes from Tony Hawk to Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He's really had some like very prominent known guests and also like some really unique guests as well.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think you know from like interviewing my grandpa and having some other guests that like aren't the face in the name that everyone would know but there some of those dreams are so so powerful.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And I love that like that's been a learning along the way is that everyone's dream is valid and everyone has a purpose, whether you're like for fun on the stage or like, you know, maybe you're playing more of a background or like a less visible.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Your dream is less visible.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all valid and it's all important.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really powerful.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Frazier, do you think that since your mentality kind of like became more open to other people's dreams no matter how small or big do you think that helped people open up to you in that storytelling of their own vulnerable dream or aspiration that like not a lot of people want to

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: voice because it is like as soon as you voice it like you set yourself up to either succeed or kind of like fail at it and it's kind of that in between space that gets really tough.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, absolutely. The first five years of this, I just stood behind the camera and I held the camera in front of people's faces. I said what's your dream and they would talk to the camera not me.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And that doesn't really lean itself to people being authentic. It kind of just leans itself to a quick sound bite like if someone came up to you on the street and said what's your dream.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_06]: You would just go to be happy or something you know now the cameras in the corner it's hidden. It's far away and it's just a conversation and now people open up now it's so much richer I asked follow up questions.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I allow people to just take the time to talk for however long they want. And it's yeah it really like has opened up it's opened up so much more and you're so right on what you said before about the accountability.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's probably why so many people dodge me because it really you really have to. You have to like, I mean, once it's out there your friends and family will keep you accountable.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean it's out there. And it's not really something people talk about often like even some of the bigger names you kind of you talked about Brie. Like a lot of those people afterwards tell me that they've never shared this publicly or they've never shared their dreams of anyone or they've not actually thought about their dreams in so long.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's kind of surprising because you assume people who are kind of out there doing incredible things must every day of the thinking about dreams. But it's just something people don't talk about it's not an everyday conversation.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_06]: So people were really brave when they actually share it with me and I'm so grateful that people trust me.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_06]: But it genuinely is a passion so I'm not faking this like I genuinely love. I think that's the other thing I genuinely this is what I love. Like I love talking to people about dreams, even without the camera at a party.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I would be talking to someone about their dreams.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_06]: So

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of a natural extension, I guess.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to talk about like some of the dreams that have been most powerful for you or like that have really touched your heart when you heard someone's dream, maybe it inspired you or something that might inspire our listeners as well.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, for sure.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I think because I've filmed so many dreams, it's almost like they all kind of blur into one kind of big part. So for me it's more about the experience of meeting someone. That's what I remember.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So if I bump into someone on the street and this has happened where they're like, oh hey man, you filmed my dream like four years ago.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I will have no idea what they said, but I will remember exactly where we shot it.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, we're in the alleyway and that's weird spot, but I won't remember what they said.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So it really is the experience of meeting these people that I totally, that's where them, you know, that's the memorable thing for me.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_06]: So dreams that stand out like filming my best mate and his wife at their wedding in front of everyone.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Full get up, sunset, the most perfect sunset ever. That shot was magic or filming my nana before she passed away.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Dreams like that stand out so much, but there have been like a couple of like one-liners that people have said that really stuck with me.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I filmed the dream of a young girl like four years ago and she said her dream is to make heaven crowded.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And I love that so much that I put it on a hoodie.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why, I just, I'd never heard that before and I was like, that's such a great dream.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have like a little book of all those one-liners that really just hit?

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, but I totally should, but to be honest every now and then I'll scroll through and I'll do like a bit of a nostalgic deep dive.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's really weird as soon as I start watching an old dream, I'll instantly remember what people said.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, oh yeah, that's right, that guy was saying, but no, there's been so many memorable moments and people and you know, like it, I've learnt too that everyone seems to want happiness.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_06]: That is the single most common dream, no matter who it is. People want to be happy.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: People want community, people want to be loved.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Like me and my wife Jade a couple of months ago were filming the dream of a satanic priest and his dream was all about community.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Now he wants to build satanic churches. That's his idea, that's his form of community.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And obviously like we're Christians so we lean on the opposite end of that.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_06]: But his heart behind it was building a place where everyone is welcome and people can find community.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're like, wait, what? All the same. We all want to be loved, we all want to be seen, we all want to feel welcomed and no matter who it is, like genuinely I believe all humans want the same thing.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really special too that like you said this, these are your words not mine.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: In the prep call that even though you don't believe the same things, talking about dreams gets you in the same room.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And it just opens up the door for conversations with people and cultures and conversations that you never would have had.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's incredible to be able to have those conversations with people that in any other reality or any other situation like you would not feel comfortable talking to them or they wouldn't feel comfortable talking to you.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_06]: You're so right, you're so right. Like I kind of like joke around a lot but if you told me in two minutes I was going to go and meet Kim Jong-un.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I'd be like, cool. I know exactly how I'm going to handle that conversation. I know exactly what I'll talk to Vladimir Putin about in two minutes because it's like this universal question that no matter who it is you can ask it and everyone will have an answer.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's almost like a portal into people's souls.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And as soon as you ask that question, they instantly just unleash and there's this trust. They're vulnerable. It always leads to the best conversation regardless of a camera being in your face or not.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It is such a great party question or barbecue question.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And everyone loves talking about their dreams. Like people light up. It's like magic. It's like everyone would talk about their dreams if they were asked the question.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And so it's such a blessing that I feel like every day we meet strangers and you leave as mates.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, we've made so many friends through this project because you just naturally have these incredible conversations and you build instant trust with people.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_06]: So it really is a blessing that we get to do this.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Speaking of some of those big names like Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis, what was it like interviewing them and some of the big names?

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What was that like in having the opportunity to share their dreams with the audience? Was it pretty nerve-wracking?

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Well, firstly it took like seven years before anyone of that level was going to say yes to this project.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'll put that out there to people. I think a lot of people assume I was filming these types of people from day one.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_06]: There is no way I was going to get Ashton Kutcher in the first like six, seven years of this.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think he was the first person of that, like had done Prime Ministers before that, kind of smaller celebrities.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But he was the first person that I think really validated this whole project.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And I just sent him a cold email, totally out of the blue.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Had no intro to him. Shootershoe. We love it.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_06]: 100% and like three weeks later he responded.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And I ended up on a Zoom call with him at 4am New Zealand time and I was at a McDonald's.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So it was me at McDonald's at 4am talking to Ashton Kutcher.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Wild. I love it.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And that was definitely the most nervous I had ever been for a dream because I was just so surreal.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It was just like, wait, what? One, I thought am I being catfished?

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like these, like I think it's him. Like I'm like 99% short.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: What did you say in the email?

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I just shot my shot.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I've seen 40,000 cold emails since I started.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, even like in the video of it, he was like, you said all the right things.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you really got me and they, you know what it is.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I read a thing on Google a little while ago about tips to cold emailing and I pretty much break every single rule that it's known in the business way of cold emailing.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm just myself. I might y'all suck bro.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_06]: What up? Like let's freaking do this dude.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Like emojis. Like I'm like, man, like I'm 100%.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I am not professional.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Unorthodox.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but for some reason I think it stands out because they're like, oh wait, this is a human.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Not a, this isn't a template. This isn't like, oh you send this to 500 people with like dear, dear so and so.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, nah, like I'm always like, hope you've had a badass week or hope you've had an epic week.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know if for some reason I think people are just connected to that.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_06]: But, but after that, like that kind of opened the floodgates for a lot more of these people.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And now I don't get nervous anymore, which is the best thing ever.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So when I filmed Neela's dream, I ended up at her and Ashton's house on Valentine's Day and spent the morning with them.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't nervous at all.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: They invited you into their house on Valentine's Day.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was, I was, it was us free in the kitchen when Ashton gave her her Valentine's Day present.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just saying, I was like, should I be here right now?

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_06]: It was, yeah, it was pretty special. Like that was, yeah, but I even had heart pajamas on I think.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was so wild and something that I never ever could have foreseen happening when I started this.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, even like doing like Terry Crews and T-Pain and Tony Hortley.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_06]: It's so great when you don't get nervous anymore because you can just be yourself.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm just, you know, you know, whereas in the earlier days you would be like,

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_06]: like I'd have no idea what to say and then it'd be a way shorter interaction.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_06]: But now I end up for some reason now it's like I end up spending a lot of time with these people

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_06]: and then they usually just keep chatting and then before I know it,

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm at their house for like three hours or something.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You're at family dinner on Easter.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So when stuff, yeah exactly.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Should I leave now guys?

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome. The one that I would love to hear about too, because I think being a sports girl,

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_02]: someone who I love so much is Tony Hawk.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean he's an icon and also like I just feel like he really is all about community

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and I listened to the dream that you filmed for him and it kind of validated that.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He had mentioned like the best part about a skate park is that it brings people of all ages

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and all demographics and it's like this great leveling ground.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's kind of the power of sports, but skateboarding in particular also like has this magic behind it.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, what was what was the Tony Hawk interview like and experience like?

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_06]: That was again, that was a cold email to his team.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Like a strange cold email and then heard back like two hours later.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_06]: So I was pretty surreal.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It was yeah, that's usually not the story.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_06]: So my thing is it's a numbers game.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_06]: If I send 100 emails, I'll get two yeses or one yes.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like just send thousands of emails and I'll start getting yeses.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_06]: But his was so like surreal because I'm like 30 years old.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_06]: So I grew up like Pete Tony Hawk era.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Like that was it like my friend group like skating was the thing.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And like he was like the hero playing Tony Hawk on PlayStation and Xbox.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I filmed it at a skate park for dramatic purposes because it was a zoom call.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So I was like, well, I've got to do it.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I got to make it feel dramatic.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_06]: So I shot this already just skate park shot for my it was I think the thing for me that made that so special is I was able to invite my mate Nathan who.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Literally like Tony Hawks is idle his hero in life and I invited him and he got to meet Tony and chat at the end.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_06]: That to me was what made that so special.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, well if I'm fortunate enough to get these opportunities to meet these people how cool would it be if I get to bring people along who also get to meet their hero because that doesn't happen often when you get to meet your hero, you know, and he lived up to every everything Nathan got to meet.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And I could have hoped Tony Hawk lived up to it.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, it was meant to be like a five minute call and ended up being like 20 or 25 minutes and just genuinely great dude and I'd say that it basically every single person of that kind of level of interviewed everyone is so nice and so awesome.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And there's a reason they've got to that level, you know, they're just she won the human but to they're just.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I know I've only experienced just yeah amazing humans basically everyone I've filmed to be honest out the 2100 I don't need to say there's probably been counting on my hands experiences that weren't incredible but otherwise every human I just find is.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I feel like great.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You're so optimistic too.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not everybody's story but I do feel like people meet you with the same energy and the same frequency that you show to them.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And like, I think you lead with your heart too so you probably get the most authentic and genuine and like love in return.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I think I surprised some people when they meet me to see how like, yeah, what up guys.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, we love it.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Getting love bombed.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the best I try I try bring that Steve energy to everything I do.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Amazing.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So another thing that you mentioned to us was that you actually have a list of five impossible people to interview and you have interviewed one of your five, which was Elmo, which is wild.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But who else is on your list.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so when I started this.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I wrote out a list of five impossibles, which at the time were like so outrageously impossible.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it was yeah, like when I started getting like a local New Zealand dealer celebrity was like I reached Everest like this is crazy.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, so I wrote on that list Steven Spielberg Justin Bieber Roger Federer JK Rowling and Alma on Sesame Street.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And I filmed Elmo on Sesame Street last year, which was so so like crazy and I flew to Melbourne for 10 minutes.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So basically the Sesame Street publicist was like if you can come to Melbourne will give you 10 minutes with Elmo.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_06]: So I literally just flew to Melbourne for that interview and then went home.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, so I've got four lists on that list.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Obviously I've got a far bigger list too like I want to do Banksy's dream you know like there's so many people I want to capture but those are those were the five I wrote when I started.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Do they seem like it obviously in the beginning it seems way more impossible.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But now that like I feel like as soon as you start interviewing more and more people you're like well this is actually pretty realistic like even you just saying Justin Bieber.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's super after looking at all the content and stuff that you've done I feel like it's very attainable.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I believe I'll have all five ticked off in the next year or so.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I believe it yeah it's definitely getting to that point where I think I will.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I yeah I look forward to the day when I have to rewrite a brand new list.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's make it happen.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to happen.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I believe it will happen.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and then next year it's going to happen.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we're here for it so cool.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So another question like I think across all of these interviews that you've been able to do and like sharing people's dreams.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you noticed a theme of maybe what's keeping people back or holding people back from chasing after their dream?

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think it's environment.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I think environment is a huge aspect.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So if you're hanging out with people who aren't pushing you or encouraging you to dream it's going to be very hard to dream.

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You know I'm probably going to butcher the quote but I think it's like if nine of your mates smoke you're going to be the tin or something like that.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_06]: You kind of morph into your environment.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a millionaire you'll be the sixth or like yeah you are the top five people you surround yourself with.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a book actually I don't know what book I can't name it.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: There is a book yeah that says that.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_06]: It's so true though and you know I'm very fortunate that my parents pushed me to dream but not everyone has that.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Not everyone had teachers that encouraged them.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_06]: But also too maybe there's a degree that people aren't actually pursuing their dreams.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_06]: They're pursuing fantasies.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_06]: They're pursuing like maybe they're like I want to be LeBron James so I'm going to dedicate my life to being the next LeBron James.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_06]: But actually they're not meant to be the next LeBron James.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Actually they're not meant to be a pro basketball player at all.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe they're going to be this incredible entrepreneur but maybe all their friends are playing basketball.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean basketball I'm touching into your guys kind of world but maybe you know or maybe you go my hero is Tom Cruise.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Therefore I want to be Tom Cruise but maybe you're not meant to be an actor.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe you're going to be Prime Minister.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe you're going to just run a café and you're going to be incredible at that.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's so easy to copy other people's dreams especially when you're a kid.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_06]: You kind of just look up to your heroes and go that's what I'm going to do.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think people just need to take the time to find their true authentic dreams.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And it takes a lot of work to find that you know.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you think people find their authentic dreams?

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I think like learning discovery trying a ton of things.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Like my dream was to be Spielberg.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_06]: That was my childhood dream.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_06]: That's what I believed I was going to be and then when I started this at 22 my dream was still to be Spielberg.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It was probably not until last year that I kind of let go of that and went wait.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And actually it was the conversation with Ashton that it kind of clicked for me.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_06]: So Spielberg Peter Jackson those two filmmakers are kind of like my heroes.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was telling Ashton this that like my whole life I wanted to be Spielberg or Peter Jackson.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And Ashton said to me he said you will only ever be the second best Peter Jackson

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_06]: but you could be the best Fraser on the planet.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And I kind of clicked in that moment.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like wait yeah you're right why would I ever want to be the second best Peter Jackson of the second best Steven Spielberg.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm me I'm unique like and only in the last year have I probably embraced that to go away.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to be the next Steven Spielberg.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Like if you told me right now I could jump into Steven Spielberg's body and be Steven Spielberg.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say not why the heck would I want to just jump into another human like I want to be me.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But it took you know maybe like 29 years to discover what my authentic true dream is and to be honest I was getting in the way of it.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I probably knew years ago that I was pursuing something that wasn't quite me.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I was just probably had too much ego to let go of it you know because I was like no I want to be famous I want to win an Oscar.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to be a massive filmmaker and it was probably my ego that was stopping me from actually pursuing who God had called me to be.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So it takes time and it's scary because the thing you're called to do might not make you famous it might not make you rich.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know that might be very scary to let go of that thing that you are truly great at is not going to take you to crazy outrageous heights but you'll be so much happier doing it than if you get to crazy heights doing something that you weren't born to do.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_06]: You know like I feel like the worst thing would be getting famous doing something that you don't love and now everyone expects you to do that for the rest of your life and now you're trapped.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think yeah like what's the thing that lights you up what what would you do for free like that's like I've never been paid to do 10,000 dreams.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_06]: But I still do it every single day because I love it.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_06]: It's my passion and that doesn't mean that like every day you're going to be happy like of course it's gonna be tough and you're going to want to quit and everything but what is the thing you do in your free time that brings you joy.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_06]: You know not not what's the thing that your friends tell you you're good at what's the thing your parents tell you you're good at no what's the thing that you genuinely love.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: What a beautiful word Fraser you just preaching over there.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry I'm probably way away from the question.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not good.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It really is like it's so beautiful like it's a double-edged sword too because at the same time the people you dream you aspire to be had to dream of aspiring to be somebody else because if you can't see it you typically can't dream it and and everyone has to figure out what that looks like.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like in their own time.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's crazy it's beautiful.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love it.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I you know and I think to like I had heard a word once when it comes to dreaming to like pay attention to your tears what is causing your heart to swell up with like joy or sadness or like what tug that your heart strings and noticing that like what movies are you crying

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_02]: and for me every time I watch remember the Titans I'm like oh my gosh reconciliation through sports.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the freaking best thing I've seen and it makes sense because I'm like all about sports and impact and like I think that's a huge part of my own purpose and my why but I think being able to pay attention at like who did God make me to be how am I wired and really you know really leaning into

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: that paying attention to that rather than like what is the world say I need to be or how do I fit into this mold of success but really like being so in tune with like who got me to be and leaning into that and going after that and being unafraid,

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: but it is hard and it can get I think in today's world where there's so many distractions and so many things calling for our attention to really stay true to your authentic dream and your authentic purpose is a challenge but it's so so worth it you know.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely, where I gotta ask you guys what.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_06]: What is your dream.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I was trying to read I was trying to word it in a different way I was like wait why am I just say what's your dream.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I got one one like that's my one line what am I trying to rewrite it.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Me and tell me we're literally just texting about this I'm like are you prepared with your dream could I have a feeling he's gonna he's gonna flip it.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh and I was I was like, I don't know if I have an answer right now I'm in between redreaming and reshaping and I'm doing it blindfolded.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like I'm just trying to figure out what sets my soul on fire I'm like in one of those seasons of like I do think your dreams like you hit a dream like I hit going to the WNBA playing professional basketball overseas for such and such years and you got a redream.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you hit him you hit another milestone and then you're like I gotta figure out like how to reshape the dream as you kind of expand.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm like I don't know I got I got I like I don't know I'm in it right now.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in it.

[00:36:52] Yeah.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_06]: What about you Brie.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, hold on follow a question I've got a follow up question.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're flipping the script it's actually really Frazier's champion this podcast.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the first episode of my new podcast.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, so you made it to the WNBA, which is so awesome.

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know how many people on the planet dream of becoming a professional athlete and how few actually do it.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_06]: So one that's outrageously inspiring.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_06]: But like what was the dream when you were a kid?

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Was it to be in the NBA?

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Was it to be in the WNBA when what was that journey like for you?

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was to be in the WNBA where where I got that notion.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I honestly I think I saw it or I heard it and I like basketball and then I just like I was like that seems like a risky dream.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say it out loud.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I wrote it in like an essay in sixth grade and the teacher was like you realize that only like 1% of people actually make it to that level like kind of crushing and I'm like a stubborn redhead kid.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like well now I got to do it.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Hold my back.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll show you.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, eat it.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_06]: That is so, so awesome.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_06]: My gosh.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Now change me there. I'm not just saying that like that that's yeah, I think that's so impressive.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. Thank you.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think like any thank you I'm not to downgrade my dream but to the same point like God had to reshape that dream.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I got there. I had a bunch of knee injuries. I had like a lot of setbacks where God like God was trying to like shift my mindset or like maybe basketball was my idol and he wasn't my idol, and he needed me to like re identify myself

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: relabel myself and relabel like maybe set me like setting me up for the next dream.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think outside of just my identity.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But Charles, so when your kid was it to be like, I'm going to be the Michael Jordan of the WNBA and I'm like going to be the ghost or the just to make the WNBA.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to sound so ignorant of me like, I don't think I actually knew who is really good. I knew of Michael Jordan.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I like, I think I just saw that as a very like aspirational dream and impossible dream kind of like your list of impossible people and I was like this seems like an impossible dream and I'm from a small town in Iowa and nobody I know has done this.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like why not why not do it like say that's my dream. The worst I could do is fail.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, love that.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So yes. Yes. And tells like that is you through and through even now you're unafraid you are a go getter you are a risk taker it's like so cool to see how like even that mentality as a little tells has transcended into who you are today as an adult woman and all the things.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so cool.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to flip it to breathe though breathe what what was your dream what is your dream because you played pro two. Was that always your dream.

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: My first dream was to be the next Britney Spears. That was my first dream. I'll be honest, I wanted to be a singer.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I had created this little band called the butterfly girls with my friends and we would make up songs in the backyard.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So cool.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I think a big part of my own personal story is the role of sports in my life, helping me overcome the loss of my mother, allowing me to travel around the world and like seeing it be this great connector and so my overarching dream is really seeing reconciliation

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and like unity and connection through sports and seeing how sports can really help to make the world a better place.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then specifically like I'm also kind of in a season of like re dreaming next steps and thinking through okay how does that overarching like why come to life and what I do and so I don't know it's a little vulnerable to say but I think a dream is to start my own business and

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: to work with professional athletes and helping them uncover their own purpose and passion and being an agent representing them so yeah that's it's very vulnerable to say it's out there.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's recorded.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah live out here.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's such an awesome dream.

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You can definitely do that too.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You're fully capable you're the shooter of champion this like you shoot your shot at every like all these people to get them on the podcast like that is you like to a T and you're capable of doing like whatever you set your mind to so if you want to do it you'll do it.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's so funny that Fraser for like when we're talking about speaking into existence because even like the podcast like when we were just an ideation.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And when I went on a podcast and it was like my friend and I are thinking about doing a podcast champion this and the guy that I was with he's like well now it's on my podcast and you have to do it.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, who is who is who's on your impossible list for this podcast.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Who are we chasing for you got this.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay one is definitely Candice Parker because she's the goats. We love her. She's like just such a powerhouse woman. Not only was is she an amazing athlete and amazing mother and yeah I'm just inspiration so I think she would be on the list.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Who else would be on the list though it's I think Tony Hawk would be amazing sorry tells you about to go but like Fraser you have that email address I might have that from you to my shop.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think my impossible list was actually for Fraser's impossible list because I was still thinking on like the dreaming thing. I was like you should definitely get like a president or something because they've already like reached how does a president

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_01]: really want to get a president and then it re-dream their dream like how do they push how do they like they reached this pinnacle and they're like well now what do I do.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like that would be so interesting to hear.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_06]: My good I'm chasing all the president I will get there I would totally get there but I am definitely on hustle mode with.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_04]: We know you will.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And I want I want to break down, because I feel like a lot of like the Prime Ministers are filmed give very much the PR kind of it feels scripted.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to get a president and actually like put all that scripted stuff away and be like no like let's open up like what is your dream like this.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I yeah that I can't wait for that moment it will happen but I want to be the first president that would be yeah.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Totally.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be really awesome.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: All right to get us back on track just a little bit.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I love a little detour.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We would we would love to hear some of the challenges that you've actually faced and convincing people to open up and share their dreams with you.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And what are you have any like tactics or thing ways that you help overcome the that kind of obstacle or pushback to sharing their dreams.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So do you mean like if someone doesn't know what their dream is or do you mean by accessing certain people.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well maybe like maybe it's more along the lines of like people who share a dream but you have a feeling it's bigger than what they're sharing.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like is there a way that you can coax them into actually like letting it out there releasing it.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I think I've I've come to realize the importance of the time before I hit record.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So in the early days it was very much I'd meet someone and hit record within two or three minutes.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_06]: There was no personal connection there was no trust there was just like OK it was an exchange now it's like OK this chat.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's talk let's talk about it like I'll usually ask them before it's on camera what their dream is and help them break it down.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know like every now and then I'll be like what was your dream as a kid.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And then we just chat about it and then I'm kind of good now at knowing I've kind of learned when someone's given me like a kind of full answer or where the someone's holding back.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I can usually sense if someone has more to give and I'll usually just ask follow up questions or I'll just give time like pauses you know instead of I used to run away from an awkward pause you know whereas now it's like well actually no we can sit for five seconds and silence and let them process their thoughts you know.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_06]: But it is very special when you are someone what the dream is and then they end up you know they end up in tears you know that's that's always so special and that's like there's some answers I've heard where you're like wow like that person really like share their soul with me.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and that's so special you know but I also I will say maybe like six out of 10 times straight afterwards people will say to me.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_06]: You're the first person I've ever told that to.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow, which is such a privilege.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, including people of very high status as well who have gone you're the first person I've ever shared that with.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're like wow wait what you trusted me.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that I just was going to ask you to like if we were to fast forward to you just hitting and record on your 10,000th dream that you've recorded like take me to that moment like because I imagine you know this dream has been given to you to film 10,000 dreams and that's kind of like a global north star for you and it's provided a lot of hope but yeah what do you imagine that moment might happen.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And what would it be like for you at the end of the project.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I love that you asked that you're the first person that's ever asked me that.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that is an awesome question.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I know who the 10,000 is going to be and I won't say what it is but shook hands with this person in 2017 that they would be number 10,000.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to honor that.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I do every now and then stop and think about it.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's so weird.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like it will be a really sad day.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't think there's going to be much relief.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't think it's going to be a massive party in celebration.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's going to be a really just sad day because it's not about getting to 10,000 it's about the journey to getting to 10,000.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know if I wanted to finish it.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's like one of those things you're like, do I actually want to finish it?

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Like this is enriched.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll let me and my wife's life so much.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I do think about that.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Like when will that be like is it going to be like 2050 or something 2060?

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what or second moment going to be?

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it'll be I think it'll be a surreal journey.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_06]: It was like, this is my Everest, you know?

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I wonder if like how did Edmund Hillary feel when he got to the summit of Everest for the first time?

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Was he like celebrating or was it kind of like, okay, cool.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just a few nice.

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_06]: In fact, I need to get back down now.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's almost like the adventure of getting to the summit is so much funner than actually standing at the summit.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and I'm going to get to the end of this.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I know I'm going to get to the end of this and be like, oh wait, 10,000 is not enough.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I should do more or I didn't do everything I could have.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't milk it.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I should have done that.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I probably will start overthinking it.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Like that's just my nature of going.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I could always do more but I think I'll need to get to a place where I can let go and just trust that.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe this chapter of my life is done and now God's got something so much more excited.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, not necessarily more excited but just something different for me and my wife.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And we'll probably have multiple kids at that point.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_06]: We might even have grandkids at that point.

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know how it's going to feel but I like you ask that question.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the first time I've actually talked about this ever.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a great answer too.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a time of morning and time of celebration at the same time.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there like obviously it's a deeply personal like dream to reach to 10,000 dreams.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Is there any broader like social impact that you're trying to achieve on this journey too?

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean this has been my wallpaper since in the last like year.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So I won't watch your dream to be on the cover of Time Magazine because I genuinely just want to have the entire planet dream.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I want this to change culture.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I want what's your dream to become a part of conversation globally kind of like everyone on the planet.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, maybe not everyone but everyone knows what YOLO is.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's so universal. Everyone knows what it means.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I want what's your dream to become more famous than YOLO.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And I used to want my face to be on the cover of Time Magazine.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's more about the mission now. I'd rather what you do become famous, you know?

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: That is so powerful and what is more like a nobler than understanding your purpose on this earth.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like what is your dream? Like what are you made for? Why did God like put you together?

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's so so so good. I love it.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a big dreamer, you know? Definitely.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_06]: There's no small dreams. It's all crazy or decious dreams but...

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You keep good company.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's the way I'm wired, you know? Like you just gotta lean into who you are.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. I was gonna ask too. Jade is amazing.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You've talked a little bit about Jade, your wife.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: What is it like to get to work alongside Jade on this project?

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so we're so fresh at doing this as a team.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So Jade was a children's pastor until October last year and like the greatest children's pastor ever.

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_06]: So we really felt a strong God prompting that we would do this as a team,

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_06]: that we would be missionaries as we go out into the world and meet with these people.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And obviously that's been a journey in itself and we're figuring out how this works as us as a team.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I reckon Jade is going to become more on the camera end of it too.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like she will definitely shine in that space.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think it's just gonna be so much more beautiful, this whole experience.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Why do the solo? We've got so much further as a team and as a couple,

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_06]: then we would just meet by myself.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's such a blessing finding the right person to partner with, life with.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_06]: It changes everything. I was six years in when I met Jade.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Five, five and a half, six years in. So I had done this for like 1800 dreams before I had even met Jade.

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_06]: So she's only ever known me doing 10,000 dreams.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So was it a little tough to share kind of like your baby with her or like have her actively like step in and start working on it with you?

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Was that kind of tough?

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, totally. And we're still figuring that out and we're still learning and we're still trying to figure out where our strengths are.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_06]: But oh, absolutely. You know, I was a one man team for like five, six years.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I was doing everything. I still do a lot of just the reaching out the filming, the editing, but it was totally a solo gig for so long.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_06]: And I need to be better at delegating.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not. I'm not great.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_06]: We all do. We all do.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Dude, I had so much to my plate and I need to get so much better at letting go. That's something I need to work on.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel that.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You also mentioned prior to this in our prep call that I think our listeners would really enjoy is like what did you notice between the dreams of young people versus old people?

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so there's definitely themes with age groups. So every kid wants to be a Marvel superhero.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like that's just like I don't see if you check if I was filming a kid right now, I'd say eight out of 10 times it's going to be a Marvel superhero.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's usually Iron Man or Captain America.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And then everyone in their 20s, everyone in their 20s is about like the environment, sustainability, social change, making a difference in the world.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Everyone who has a kid nine times out of 10, their dreams are about their kids.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Like honestly, like one of my favorite type of dreamer to film is a father whose dream is all about his kids.

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And so many times that father will tear up or it just it's like they get they get mushy as soon as they go like I just want my kids to dream and it's so beautiful.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And then people like 60, 70, 80 years old, it's about legacy.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It's about family.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_06]: It's it's not about worldly success at all.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just about giving back and it's about their grandkids fulfilling who God's called them to be.

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's so like there's definitely probably a study here somewhere of how humans dream, but that's what I've noticed so far.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it becomes less about themselves.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so beautiful.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we like to finish off every episode before we get to there's lightning rounds.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But our last question and you alluded to it a little bit already is do you have advice for listeners regarding following their dreams and also using their gifts to make the world a better place?

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'll probably rip off a little bit of something that one of the dreamers I filmed recently said so I had the opportunity of filming the earth.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And Terry Owen family's dreams in Australia and Terry Owen talked about this around blessing people and the goal in life is to find something you are incredible at that you love that lights you up and then finding a way to use that gift to just bless other people.

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And then you will find true success.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think it's easy to encourage people to just find what you're good at and chase that dream, you know, just do what you love and chase a dream.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_06]: But I think it's so much cooler to say, find the thing that you're so great at chase that dream, but find a way to make it less about yourself.

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And find a way to just bless people with that dream because you will never be more fulfilled.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Then we then like, let me rephrase that blessing people is so much more fulfilling than just blessing yourself.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Like giving service is just so much more fulfilling.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And it almost sounds cliche to say that but it's so true.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I find the secret to happiness or like when you're having a really bad day or you're just feeling depressed. Just go and bless someone.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, go buy your mate a coffee send an encouraging text to someone just go do something that's not about you.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And usually you'll feel so much happier.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_06]: So that would be my encouragement to anyone is just find something that is of service to other people.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Find a mission that is so much bigger than you, that is about changing the world.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, I mean this is all stuff that I wish I could tell 18 year old Fraser because my dreams back when I was 18 was just all about me.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to be famous. I'm going to be rich. I'm going to be the greatest filmmaker ever. I'm going to be on Mount Rushmore filmmakers.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, no, like find a mission and make that mission famous. You know, yeah, bring change to the world.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, love it.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_06]: 100%.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We're at our lightning round.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the quick questions for you to answer in about like one sentence or 30 seconds, whatever you choose.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Take it away.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, cool. Let's jump straight into it.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Fraser, what's the most interesting interview you've done?

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my goodness.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_06]: The most interesting.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I probably say the satanic crease was pretty interesting because it was so different to how I expected.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I believe it. That's a that's a that's an odd one to step into.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I have like expectations.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, our second question if you could capture the dream of any historical figure, who would it be and why?

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh. Good question.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Steve Irwin.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_06]: 100%.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_06]: He's not really a historical figure, but 100% he would have been on top of my list.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But why?

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Because he's a hero. I just, I, I made a joke earlier saying I try to be like Steve Irwin and all I do.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I genuinely mean that.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I've never known someone to be so authentically themselves.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I feel like he was 100% an original.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And I tried to be like that and everything I do.

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so good.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, next question. If your life was a movie, what would the title be?

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_06]: God, I don't want to say what's your dream. That's so, so obvious.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I was waiting for it.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_06]: So obvious. I can do such a good answer than that.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my gosh. I'm totally blank.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly simple. Keep it simple.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that could definitely be the title.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know what? At one point there was going to be a documentary made on 10,000 Dreams and the working title was 10,000 Dreams and Me.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_06]: That was the working title. So there you go.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll use that.

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: What happened to the documentary? Why didn't it come to fruition?

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It was, it was about to take off with Universal Studios.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_06]: So it was just about to take off and then COVID happened and that kind of all shut down.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_06]: But I'm glad it was the wrong time to do it.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_06]: In hindsight, it was actually a blessing it shut down when it did.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: What a story though.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_06]: It's so random.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, next question. Where is the farthest you've traveled for an interview?

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Specifically for an interview.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Probably LA.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_06]: From New Zealand, we've, you know, we've, this was actually February.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I flew to LA for an interview pretty much.

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Was that the Mila Kunas one?

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Yeah. So it's a long, long distance from New Zealand.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That makes sense. I'll put that one.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_06]: There was no, there was no, like there was no wash.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I had no choice but to do it.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Exactly.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, last, last question.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: How can people support your mission and the work that you're doing?

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: How can our listeners support you?

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say the mission is to help the planet dream.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So I would say the best way to support this mission is to go and ask your friend,

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_06]: your wife, your husband, what's your dream?

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And just make it a part of everyday conversation.

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the mission.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Love it. That's good.

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Well, thanks for joining us, Fraser.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been amazing having you on the show and hearing your vision and your mission

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and like how far you've come from 365 dreams to 10,000 dreams.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I know we're looking forward to seeing all the dreams that are to come.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys.

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: For all of our listeners, if you like this podcast, like share, follow,

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: we'll include all of Fraser's information in our show notes and all of his social

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that you can go follow him and go, if you want to share your dream,

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe he'll share it. I don't know.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But, slide into the DMs if you have something to share.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We love it.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you, Fraser. Truly super inspiring.